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תמרה's avatar

Diplomacy is not what (finally) put an end to Nazis and European fascism. And there is little difference between then and now in terms of the mentalities of the people were are dealing with.

Freedom Lover's avatar

No no no. The people around the table are not intelligent and not capable. Except for the Islamic regime of course. Trump went with a military option BECAUSE he recognized that negotiation was pointless. Now he is at the negotiation table as if the war never happened and he is surrendering American and Israeli interests. It's nuts.

There are two approaches to dealing with Iran.

1. Extreme sanctions and isolation in the hopes of weakening the regime.

2. Attack and eliminate the threat.

One was tried for decades. In February Trump decided to go with number 2. Then he inexplicably decided on 3, appease the regime and surrender a hard fought advantage for no reason while also turning on Israel.

Every day we spend spinning our wheels with the Mullahs is another day we grow weaker.

dee's avatar

You are correct.

Allen Z's avatar

Several things Israel and its supporters (and I am one) should consider in trying to accommodate the US desire for a ceasefire and opening Hormuz.

High oil prices mean a better chance the Democrat Party wins Congress in the mid-terms. The Democrats are less supportive of Israel, with a significant part of the caucus now actively hostile to Israel. Whereas the Republicans remain overall pro-Israel.

Increased Muslim migration to the US is a big factor in reduced support for Israel. As compared to other immigrant groups, a disproportionate % of Muslim immigrants are anti-semitic and anti-Israel. (I'm not saying "All" Muslims). The issue of the threat of Islamization of America and the West is finally gaining traction among Republicans. Whereas the Democrats, like the UK Labor Party, are enabling the Islamisation of America by doing nothing about it. Democratic politicians will never say the words Jihad or Sharia Law or Radical Islam. Either because they're afraid to talk about it or don't see it as a problem.

I fully understand the danger to Israel from Hezbollah and the sacrifices the IDF is making. Nevertheless, in light of the points I cite above, I think it's in Israel's interest to work with the US on achieving an overall cease fire and reopening Hormuz.

Peter Himmelman's avatar

Yes, unless ceasefire means rearm and reload. History has shown how often it does. As I mention in my piece, Israel and the U.S. have at times, had very different needs.

Alice Zents's avatar

Thank you for this.